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Broadcasting and Cable says that there are no more star anchors. They’re being replaced by reporters who are “using all available resources to gather news.” At the Chicago Journalism Town Hall a couple months ago, Carol Marin noted a similar trend at newspapers, where people who’d been good writers were being shunted aside in favor of those who were multi-talented producer/editor types. This is one of those times when professionals should recognize the industry change, and adapt, not try to fight against it. Mock the intern with the Twitter account at your peril.

Also, I was surprised that Michael Kinsley would say the “death of newspapers” might not be all that bad.

Lastly, I started a Tumblr blog a while back, dropped it, then picked it back up again. It’s mainly filled with short, longer-than-Twitter comments on news stories, amusing pictures, and cool videos. As the title implies, it’s effluvia.

I’m also posting links to all the Our Man In Chicago posts there as well, so if you only want to go to the trouble of following one blog, that’d be it.

Arianna on ChuffPo’s plagiarism: "The intern did it."

This week, Time.com published a piece by Belinda Luscombe about Arianna Huffington. It’s one of the few profiles of her that addresses the plagiarism (Time’s word for it, not mine) that the Chicago branch of Huffington Post (or ChuffPo) engaged in last year. It’s interesting for a couple of reasons, including the new spin Huffington is putting on the issue (2nd page):

In December the site’s Chicago section was found to have been plagiarizing. “This was a problem with an intern,” says Huffington. “There was no excuse, and we corrected it.”

Really? An intern? That’s your excuse? Where have I heard that before…? Oh I know!

When I thought about what to write for The Huffington Post I was stuck on the idea of writing about the Huffington Post, because that’s who broke the Cindy McCain story where she, or an intern her people say, lifted recipes from the Food Network’s web site and put them on John McCain’s web site as her own “favorite family recipes.”

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So thank you to The Huffington Post for looking out for the busy, the overworked, and the overheated chefs in America.

Yeah, Arianna Huffington is a regular Norma Rae.

Now, I’m not saying Huffington is lying here but here’s what Wired’s Ryan Singel was told about it in December 2008:

The Huffington Post co-founder Jonah Peretti says the contretemps are overblown — that the complete re-printing was a mistaken editorial call and that The Huffington Post’s intention in aggregating other publications’ content is to send traffic their way.

Wow, what incredible freedom Huffington Post interns have! They get to make editorial judgment calls about the content of one of the most-read Web sites in the country! No wonder people will work for them for free!

The Time article also summarizes the SEO methods HuffPo uses to create a competitive advantage over the sites whose content it uses. Luscombe says these methods as “complicated and mostly secret,” which is only half-right. They ARE complicated, but not at all secret if you’re hiring the right SEO experts.

In the article, Huffington says the trade-off is all the pageviews that she sends the way of the sites from which they take content. If my time as Web Editor of Time Out Chicago is any indication of the traffic other sites are getting, the number of page views we received from the reviews they lifted was minimal. And it’s hardly worth the loss of ad revenue from search engine traffic. Back to the article:

While this is wily, it’s legal. But news organizations may not tolerate others cherry-picking their content and repurposing it for profit for much longer. “Someone is going to sue the Huffington Post,” says Joshua Benton, director of the Nieman Journalism Lab at Harvard University. “It’s not just about the volume of the content that it appropriates, it’s about the value.” There are other aggregators, but HuffPo is the most tempting. “It’s a big player, and the site that has got closest to the line” between fair and unfair use of copy, Benton notes. [Emphasis mine]

The sad thing is, there’s an ethical way to aggregate. And ChuffPo’s actions – intern or otherwise – have soured many big media types on the idea of it, when it really could be a boon for their sites.

If only more networks "twisted" their coverage in the wake of Stewart/Cramer

Last post on all this and then I promise I’m moving on…

My initial emotional reaction to this anonymously sourced tip from TV Newser that MSNBC was “twisting” its coverage by not covering the Jim Cramer/Jon Stewart interview was “KNAVES! How dare they…um….not cover something that’s…all that newsworthy.” I couldn’t even make it to the end of the sentence before my outrage fell apart.

Let’s say for the sake of argument that this is true and isn’t an attempt to discredit the NBC network of news channels. (For what it’s worth, no less than MSNBC’s golden boy Keith Olbermann says, in a comment on Daily Kos, it isn’t true.)

As I wrote last week, Jim Cramer isn’t the real problem, he’s just the one person who agreed to take a whupping for the team. So what’s the value for MSNBC or any other news network for covering the talk show appearance of one of its affiliate’s stars after it happened (you could argue that covering it prior was all in the name of synergistic self-promotion)? Did his appearance on The Daily Show change anything? Has it led to actual news? Has CNBC changed the nature of its financial reporting as a result? Has Jim Cramer dropped his goofy sound effects or manner of presentation? We don’t know any of this yet, so there’s nothing to report. If later this week, Jim Cramer starts nailing banking CEOs to the wall and speaking in calm, measured tones then that’s news you could tie into his Daily Show spanking and it’s time to pull out the footage. If they fail to show the interview at that point, you could argue MSNBC was misreporting the story or “twisting” its coverage.

With all the real problems affecting the country, spending more time on reporting and analysis about how we got here, and less time showing the Town Square flogging of Jim Cramer could logically be called “exercising editorial judgment.”

The LA Times’s Johanna Neuman: Jon Stewart is just mad because he’s broke

You know that phrase “Washington insiders” that’s trotted out by lazy pundits or politicians when they want to characterize someone, either an elected official or a commentator, as out-of-touch with the average person? I always thought that sounded phony, like the “career politician” slur.

[TANGENT: You know what that person actually is in the best of times? A professional. Joe Biden’s a career politician. Helen Thomas is a Washington insider.

Obviously, in both cases, I want that person to be ethical and fair, and not looking for ways to enrich his or her pocketbook or personal profile at the expense of the greater good. No, here’s what I want out of a D.C. reporter: Someone who knows the ins and outs of the city, so he or she can find truth and call bullshit when it’s warranted. And here’s what I want out of an elected official: Someone who is well-versed in procedural matters and studied in the art of compromise so he or she can get things done for the betterment of the constituents. Those people are usually folks who’ve spent time in the trenches so let’s throw a little respect their way from time to time. I mean, you’d never hear “Oh she’s a career doctor…” or “He’s spent years as a public schools insider…”]

After reading Johanna Neuman‘s post about the Cramer/Stewart interview at the LA Times’ Top of the Ticket blog, (via Romenesko) I’m starting to understand why people would think spending too much time in D.C. is a bad thing:

“In fact, the Emmy-winning Stewart was so caustic — he suggesting [sic] Cramer should remove the designation “financial expert” from his pitch — it kind of makes you wonder how much he’s lost in the economic meltdown.”

Someone finally asks how the country’s most influential financial reporters contributed to our economic crisis, and your first impulse is to ask what’s in it for him? I know there’s been a lot of criticism about the lack of real journalism on this issue, but how about aiming your rifle at the rabid dogs instead of the Animal Control worker?

Neuman’s obviously a smart person and spent years covering D.C. politics. So perhaps she has – to her detriment – been blinded by those who spend too much time motivated by ego or financial gain so that’s the only prism through which she views the actions of others.

Hey big media: Watch the Jim Cramer schadenfreude ’cause you’re next

Last night, I watched the Jim Cramer interview with Jon Stewart on The Daily Show. It was good, no question. But two lessons were lost amongst Stewart’s sharp barbs, robbing me of any cathartic thrill.

First, Jim Cramer is not the problem. He’s not even the cause of the problem, he’s a by-product of it, even if he’s the most visible by-product. I’ve yet to watch the full interview but the televised version hit Cramer hard on his failure to use his knowledge from his days as a hedge fund manager to give people the truth about how these companies operate (a.k.a. using his powers for good instead of evil). Cramer should be held accountable, but he was standing on the shoulders of giants. Giant d-bags, that is, who prided themselves on creating a system so complex that no one person truly understood all of it.

No, the problem is not Jim Cramer. The problem is that it required an enormous amount of money to fund these games, and everyone from the Treasury to the guys with the headsets to the people that cover finance fed into the idea that the best financial managers were the ones who found shortcuts to leap over all the “suckers” who were only getting 10% ROI instead of 30%. People had a thirst for it, and CNBC slaked it at every opportunity with cheap wine that went straight to its viewers heads.

To properly understand all that, it takes dissection and care. As good as The Daily Show‘s writers and researchers are, they can’t – and shouldn’t be expected to – do the heavy lifting there. As Stewart points out every chance he gets, it’s a comedy show. While the show is invaluable for letting the air out of countless gas bags after the fact, let’s not forget that it’s more important for someone else to do it the old-fashioned way as it’s happening (a.k.a. reporting). Something along the lines of this New Yorker article which tracks the fall of the house of Paulson and Bernake (which admittedly is also a post-game analysis). It’s at least as good as the This American Life reports on the big pool of money, the failure of regulators, and the banking debacle.

I’d love to see The Daily Show devote an entire show, using its own style, to hang these men in satiric effigy, rather than just hammering the one nail that agreed to stand still.

Here’s the second lesson that got lost, and it relates to the first: CNBC is not alone in its failure to serve.

Right now, the Chicago Tribune site has the Stewart/Cramer story as its lead.


You’ll notice the possibility of a 50 percent tax hike (during a recession, in a state that’s really broke, and affecting people who live in a city – Chicago – whose public school system and public transit system are bleeding internally due to a lack of money) is shunted off to the side.

Let me reiterate: A story about something that happened on a basic cable comedy show to a guy who hosts another basic cable show is the lead story on the website of one of the two daily papers in the third largest city in the United States.

The Trib isn’t alone here in its glee. (Some Web sites live-blogged the damn thing for crying out loud.) Nor is this a one-time problem. Michael Miner at the Reader details the shenanigans on the front page of the paper earlier this week, while his colleague Whet Moser shakes his head over a story written by a Tribune editor and her nine-year-old daughter (!!!) who just loooove the three-quarters-of-a-million-dollar condo they found.

And just so I’m not guilty of making the Trib the Jim Cramer of media fail:

If newspapers and network television want to know how to “beat” the Internet, what we need right now more than anything isn’t tips to get through the recession (Shop less! Cook at home!) or photo galleries of hot moms (ahem, CBS-2). We need vibrant, analytical, junkyard dogs of journalism who quietly and methodically eviscerate the people who seek to make this country worse off. Not media that replays the stuff we dose ourselves with to try and forget about the mess we’re in. I mean, for God’s sake, I work at a magazine that is about “entertainment.” When my joke posts resemble the front page of the paper, there’s a problem.

It’s not hard to do. Stewart proved it last night. It doesn’t even cost that much money (if NPR and Comedy Central can do it…). And for anyone who thinks that’s not what people want: Listen to what people talk about all day today. Count the number of times people say “Hey did you see The Daily Show last night?”

When’s the last time you heard “Hey, did you see the paper this morning?”

UPDATE: Credit where it’s due: The Trib’s home page now looks like this, with the income tax story rightly positioned as the lead:


UPDATE 2:
Lord, it’s worse than I thought. On the Huffington Post, Daniel Sinker points out lead stories from the sites of CNN, the Sun-Times, and the LA Times were Anna Nicole Smith, Michelle Obama on Good Morning America, and Michael Jackson tickets going on sale, respectively.

Also, the Reader’s Whet Moser throws down with this:

“There is so much good information out there that your typical local columnist doesn’t even need to be out on the front lines, but if you’re writing about stuff in the media about the financial crisis anyway, there’s no reason not to drill down into yet more profound coverage, to be a middleman between the information out there in the cloud and local, general audiences.”

He also hits the point I glossed over above: People will thank you for this coverage with their eyes which, not incidentally, equal ad dollars which equals money which equals “saving journalism.”

There’s a follow-up to this post here.

Some follow-up reading on the Chicago Journalism Town Hall questions

There’s been a flood of discussion on the Chicago Journalism Town Hall this past Sunday. In addition to my piece, you can find audio and video from the event, plus many thoughtful written musings which are collected at the end of this post and in this post on the CJTH site. Whet Moser and Andrew Huff also posted their recommendations for moving forward. And if you’re looking for the eight models for presenting the news, Barbara Iverson has you covered.

The need for new models of journalism is not a new realization for many, but I think it’s fair to say we’ve reached the tipping point for folks who made their bones in the print-only world. I say this not just because of the CJTH, but also because of several pieces I’ve seen this week that touch on the same issues raised during the event:

Cory Bergman at Lost Remote warns against the tendency for writers to ignore the business end of things.

Eli Sanders at The Stranger follows the fear and loathing at the Seattle Post-Intelligencer over the possibility of going online-only, and what it means to be an authority in the new century.

Larry Kramer at The Daily Beast rightly notes that it’s not about newspapers, it’s about news.

And if you read nothing else, read this story from the New York Observer. If you’re as tuned into this stuff as I am, you will get four or five great ideas out of it that can apply to whatever you’re doing on your own sites.

Chicago Journalism Town Hall: Not enough words

Sometimes I feel like what I have to say has a better home on the TOC blog, even when it’s 2000-some-odd words long like my Chicago Journalism Town Hall recap. Hey, I’m the Web editor over there: I had to weigh in, and didn’t feel the viewpoints of the three-hour panel could best be presented in less.

Despite the shots I took at him in my piece – and as much as they were deserved, they pained me to write them all the same – I think Ken Davis did something great: He got the discussion started, and spawned several reactions around the Web. It’s up to us to refine it, and bring the viewpoints that were missing to the table. Such is the nature of the medium.

UPDATE: Since TOC‘s redesign killed the old link above I’m re-posting it in full here.

It was 45 minutes into a meandering discussion at the Chicago Journalism Town Hall before someone gave the discussion what it needed: a death sentence for the way the news is currently reported and sold. Depending on which side of 25 you are, it was either surprising or par for the course that said person was legendary newsman John Callaway, someone who might have been expected to have a bit more romance for what used to be.

“Newspapers, as we know them, are dead,” said Callaway. “Ask yourself: ‘What is the [new] model?'”

By the end of the three-hour discussion, moderated by (and peppered by frequent discursions from) former WBEZ newsman Ken Davis, and led mostly by a panel of well-established representatives of the old guard of Chicago journalism, no one had come up with the answer, but some had figured out the right questions to ask, while others realized they had a lot to learn.

Davis said in choosing the venue, the Allegro Hotel at LaSalle and Randolph, he meant to invoke the backroom deals made by political hacks at the Bismarck Hotel, where the Allegro now stands. (I always thought it was the Morrison Hotel, but no matter.) Perhaps he thought the assembled group of 300 or so journalists and writers would find a way through the morass of corrupted ideals and agree on the best candidate for saving the news business. Unfortunately, to paraphrase Ald. Paddy Bauler, Chicago news ain’t ready for reform.

While some on the 13-person panel could count themselves as bloggers, only three could lay claim to it as their professional day job (four, if you count Chicago Tribune columnist Eric Zorn, who probably blogs more than any other print columnist out there). So rather than an exchange of ideas between the print and online worlds, the Town Hall felt more like the funeral that Callaway suggested. From the outset, it was clear that many were there to pat themselves on the back for a job well done, rather than perform an autopsy. By my count, there were 25 rounds of applause, most given for hard-to-argue bromides like “Ethics are important” and “People should get paid for their work.” Perhaps from the perspective of the veteran journalists, it seemed as if it was necessary to stipulate all that, even though no one argued against it.

Of course, the good old days weren’t always good. Geoff Dougherty, founder of the Chi-Town Daily News, noted that his former employer the Miami Herald was laying people off when it was making a 20% profit, in an effort to get to 25. Andrew Huff, editor and publisher of Gapers Block, a site for Chicago news and commentary, also said that the definition of journalism has changed since Pulitzer and Hearst were duking it out (not a set of standards anyone’s looking to re-adopt) and would probably change again.

Perhaps what was most troubling is that some in the room didn’t realize they share a common set of problems. For every complaint on the print side, there was a corresponding grumble from the online side. Sure, there are online sites that don’t properly attribute their content, but as Brad Flora of the Windy Citizen (a Digg!-like news aggregator of Chicago stories) pointed out, when the Chicago Tribune re-published a video that first appeared on his site, it failed to acknowledge the source. And as many were rending their garments over how you can publish anything you want on that gosh darn Internet, the online folks were classy enough not to mention Judith Miller.

The biggest problem facing the new order of journalism seemed to be a lack of operational definitions and universal adoption of standards. Two of the panelists—Ben Goldberger, editor of Huffington Post Chicago, and Huff— run sites that depend, to varying degrees, on linking to other sites’ content; original opinion and commentary; and discussion of the same. Both were referred to as “news aggregators” during the panel. Yet the ways in which both sites attribute and utilize content from other sites is vastly different, to the point of controversy. (When Davis asked Goldberger why HuffPo was able to make such an impact, Callaway harrumphed: “Theft!” He may have meant online sites in general that don’t properly attribute its sources, but that didn’t stop Goldberger from squirming.)

Even the experts in the field find themselves thrown by online terminology. Robert Feder, former media columnist with the Chicago Sun-Times, said “No one goes to Medill to be a platform manager. It sounds like a CTA job.” Sure, it’s a good line. But would he say that no one goes to Medill to be a managing editor? The responsibilities are the same, it’s just the medium that’s different.

For many, it’s the lack of institutional memory and the potential for unenforced ethical standards that’s troubling. But ask anyone who’s written for the Internet and they’ll tell you the medium is famously self-correcting, if for no other reason than the litany of self-styled media critics to be found in comments on any number of stories. Barbara Iverson, co-editor and publisher of ChicagoTalks.org, said it’s easier to check out the veracity of a story on the Internet. And if the number of people in the room who were unemployed or underemployed was any indication, Chicago certainly doesn’t lack for journalists, at least a few of whom could be talked into the role of ombudsman for any nascent sites.

When a few of the panelists, including Callaway, suggested it was possible to fund a viable news organization with $2-$4 million, many in the audience—and some on the panel—scoffed. And sure, if you’re going to maintain the level of staffing and overhead that most newspapers have now, that probably seems like a pittance. But the costs of maintaining a vital online presence that does real journalism are nowhere what some would imagine;  Dougherty runs Chi-Town Daily News with a $340,000 two-year grant from the Knight Foundation.

In this new world, it’s not possible to be all things to all people as a news entity. Thom Clark, president and a founder of Chicago’s Community Media Worskshop, said newspapers don’t need to bother with reviewing movies anymore  since arts and entertainment publications like the Reader and Time Out Chicago do it just fine. Left unsaid was the hyperlocal mission, or even the hyperspecific, covering just one particular part of the news with a small staff and low overhead. But even Huff admitted that with a low overhead of $100/month, he wasn’t making enough to pay his writers, all of whom write for the site out of “love for the city.”

NBC 5’s political editor and Chicago Sun-Times political columnist Carol Marin then raised a salient point: Some of the costs of journalism are hidden. Like when lawyers are hired to go to court to defend the rights of reporters, or when newspapers are telling a story someone doesn’t want told, the way the Sun-Times‘ Natasha Korecki did with Roland Burris’s affidavit. When Zorn wondered how you can retain quality people for thirty grand, Callaway suggested a cooperative freelance model was the way to go, back to the $4 million newsroom again. He said perhaps foundations could bankroll news investigations, without actually owning the news organizations themselves. Some on the panel flirted with an “iTunes for news,” but no one pointed out that iTunes users only pay for music they think they’ll like, not for the stuff they listen to because it makes them more aware of the world.

There are models out there to fund the news, and this was another group that went underrepresented on the panel: No one from the business side was on the panel, and none of the CEOs and entrepreneurs who could fund a new kind of news organization were in the offing. Iverson started to discuss eight models for funding journalism, but only got as far as five before Davis cut her off, saying “I think you’re overwhelming us…” On the contrary, Iverson had managed to distill the economics of the news into a few easy-to-understand structures, even if you’d never seen the assets side of a balance sheet. There seemed to be a pervading fear of profits, or at least profit-making enterprises, in the room. Perhaps this is because the two Chicago dailies have been so used and abused by those focused only on the bottom line or, in the case of the Sun-Times, thieves. (That’d be Lord Black, not those darn bloggers.)

But Davis’s hesitation to discuss the business side of journalism is yet another holdover from the good old days when editorial was on one side of the wall, and sales and marketing were on the other. Smart writers now know that while editorial should never be influenced by money or marketability, they still need to have more than a passing familiarity with the business end of things, as one day they may find themselves in the editor/publisher role, creating partnerships or selling a product to make enough money to keep the news rolling.

And that’s the real question:  how to make money from all this news. None of the panelists had much of a chance to opine on this point, so this is where the audience got involved. Flora and Sachin Agarwal, chief executive behind dawdle.com, an online video-game retailer and Windy Citizen advertiser, blamed the ads themselves, noting that most still looked like crap or were so much eyewash, unable to deliver the kind of bold, dynamic look that serves the advertiser’s product as well as print. Emboldened, Agarwal began pointing fingers, saying that sites like Pitchfork and Ars Technica had made “millions of dollars” in online ad sales and why couldn’t the panelists figure this out as well? Of course, he neglected to mention that getting people to pay for music and technology news and reviews isn’t quite like getting them to pay for news about the local library board or for a reporter to sit in the state capitol building all day, cultivating sources.

Leave it to Zorn, long the early adopter among those in Chicago’s mainstream media, to bring in some reinforcements. During a Quixotic discussion of micropayments and Kachingle, Zorn said: “Who’sWhere’s kiyoshimartinez?” Turns out, he was one of several people who’d been live-Twittering the event, offering instant feedback and reporting about it. (Note to everyone who suppressed giggles when anyone mentioned Twitter: That’s why you’re in this mess.) Zorn had him stand up and, as he later wrote on his blog, voice some of his criticisms of mainstream media sites which:

“…offer really poor advertising solutions for advertisers, which means they’re not going to get high advertising rates and therefore not capitalize on the vast amount of ad inventory they have but can’t sell. In turn, they’re forced to run remnant ads, which have very low CPM values and you end up with ads that feature belly fat and mortgage rates.”

At one point, someone mentioned Google as a model, but Huff noted the idea of presenting every bit of news without filtering for your audience was dead too, and a site like Capitol Fax, which aggregates political news for free while charging a subscription fee for original, reported content, was worth pursuing. But take away that aggregated news, Marin replied, and all you’ll have left is a really good newsletter, without explaining what exactly was wrong with that. Still, as much as the sites that drive traffic back to the original sources are a needed part of the news consumption process, they don’t, by themselves, pay the salary of more than one or two reporters. There might have been more ideas in the room, but many of those who got up to speak seemed more interested in telling sob stories.

Some seemed to recognize that the funeral would only last a couple of days before it was necessary to get on with life. Davis suggested that the technology and methodology for fully monetizing online news had yet to be developed. CLTV political editor Carlos Hernandez-Gomez said that reporters need to be able to work in multiple mediums and brand themselves. Indeed, those will be the kind of reporters who will be able to staff the for-now theoretical $2-$4 million online newsroom. Marin surmised that some reporters aren’t good at editing, writing and producing; some are only good at one thing.

If anyone in the room thought they didn’t need to start learning how to do more…well, it’s their funeral.

For more wrap-ups of the Chicago Journalism Town Hall, and coverage as it happened, search Twitter for the hastag #cjth. For a live-blog of the event, visit ChicagoPublicRadio.org.

Update: Per Eric Zorn’s comment below, I’ve corrected his quote. Kiyoshi Martinez also has a blogroll of recaps, plus links to audio from the event. Also, here’s Geoff Dougherty’s plan for creating a $2 million newsroom.

Update 2: There are two new ruminations on the CJTH: One from Whet Moser, the Reader‘s Web guy, who expertly breaks down the various blog/aggregator models and the importance of SEO; and another from Andrew Huff, EIC and publisher of Gapers’ Block, who makes an important clarification about the money he makes on the site that also clarifies his quote about re: their ad sales:

While it’s true we’re not making a ton of money, we’ve been profitable, inasmuch as we’ve made more money than we’ve spent, for years. The size of that profit has been limited in large part due to my personal lack of time to devote to selling ads. Not a lack of a market, but the inability to serve that market. Even without a dedicated sales force, we’ve made enough in the last couple years for me to quit my job and make Gapers Block part of my full-time work. And now that we’ve got someone actively selling ads for us, I’m confident that profits will continue to increase, allowing us to pay more than just me. (We started to pay the editors this year; it’s a pittance, but it’s something.)

Really, Dan Ponce?

When I saw this in Tribune media reporter Phil Rosenthal’s Twitter stream, I thought it was a joke. But then I saw this:

WLS-Ch. 7 reporter Dan Ponce is leaving the city’s top-rated TV news operation to pursue a music career with his a capella group, Straight No Chaser, the station said Tuesday.

Whaaa?

Look, I don’t begrudge anyone their dreams. And if Dan Ponce wants with all his heart to be a full-time a capella musician – and if Wikipedia is correct, said holiday CD did receive a fair amount of acclaim – I hope all goes well for him and he never gets laryngitis.

But I ask you this Dan: When’s the last time your a capella gig got you licked by a winsome blonde:

I rest my case.

HuffPo’s Jonathan Peretti thinks Web editors are idiots

I mentioned in my last post that I wasn’t as upset as the Chicago Reader’s Whet Moser was about ChuffPo – the Chicago branch of the larger Huffington Post site – stealing content from local publications. Mainly because everything ChuffPo does is slapdash so it was hardly surprising that their ethics were, too, and the resulting direct harm seemed minimal.

Until someone in the comments at Chicagoland pointed out that ChuffPo’s Bon Iver page with the stolen content was coming up higher in a Google search for “Bon Iver Vic” than the Reader’s page (the source of the stolen content). You can see that here (3rd and 4th main links).

So there was the direct harm laid bare. And HuffPo’s reaction to their questionable behavior dialed up my ire.

Wired picked up the story, and spoke with HuffPo co-founder Jonah Peretti, who admitted that they made a “mistaken editorial call.” And to the site’s credit, they are no longer publishing the full content, and are instead excerpting it the way every other aggregator site does.

But the other comments attributed to him in the story show he still doesn’t get it. Excerpts from the Wired story in ital below, my comments following:

The Huffington Post co-founder Jonah Peretti says the contretemps are overblown — that the complete re-printing was a mistaken editorial call and that The Huffington Post’s intention in aggregating other publications’ content is to send traffic their way.

“You tease, you pull out a piece of it, and then you have a headline or link out,” Peretti said. “Generally publishers are psyched to have a link.”

And yes, that is what they did. And no one – Whet, me or any other Web Ed – begrudges anyone else who does this. I love when people excerpt our content, credit us and add a link. Hell, we even allow for some image use so long as the credit’s given to the photog.

But as Whet’s pointed out (read Update III in this post), what ChuffPo was doing was not aggegrating. It was re-publishing without permission then selling ads on that content. It’s hard to put this in print terms because the Web is so different in its approach. But the generally accepted notion is when you aggregate, you excerpt. And ChuffPo was re-printing entire previews.

Did they send traffic our way? Yes, some. But it was minimal. The greater crime here was in establishing a competitive advantage vis a vis SEO traffic, which means any traffic they did send our way was superseded by their higher Google search rankings (which equals more traffic).

(The more I write about this, the more I wonder why I wasn’t more pissed off. Note to self: When something like this happens in the future, throw a ball against a wall Toby Ziegler-style until you think it all the way through.)

Anyway, back to the Wired article:

The headlines on The Huffington Post, he points out, link to the outside site, not to The Huffington Post page with the two to three paragraph excerpt of the other site’s copyrighted story. That page is accessible via the comment and “Quick Read” links, and serves as the “anchor” page for comments or for follow-up reporting by The Huffington Post staff.

Almost all of the readers click on the headlines and photos, according to Peretti, which means most don’t know the excerpt page exists since they get sent to the original site.

Then why have those pages at all? Again, it’s all about the SEO, baby. Peretti’s being disingenuous here. He knows that people will find those pages via Google, which accounts for a significant portion of his site’s traffic. Just because it happens off the main page, doesn’t mean it’s not happening.

Also, to suggest that users don’t know those pages exist because they only link to the QuickRead or Comment sections, particularly since HuffPo has vigorous commenters, is also disingenuous.

He compares The Huffington Post’s influence on other sites traffic to that of link-voting sites like Digg and Reddit. Those sites, along with Google News and Slashdot, rely on small excerpts or user submitted summaries of online content in order to create lists of the best new content on the web.

First of all, don’t flatter yourself, sir. The effects of ChuffPo on our traffic are minimal compared to sites like Digg, Reddit or Fark. The competitive advantage they’re creating for themselves far outweighs the tens of weekly pageviews we get from their site.

Also, the operative words here are “small excerpts” and “user submitted summaries.” Note that HuffPo was neither printing small excerpts or user submitted summaries.

But Peretti says some 95 percent of The Huffington Post’s traffic goes through the headline links, and that when The Huffington Post does original reporting or adds to a story, it changes a headline link to point to its content.

That 95 percent number is hazy and here’s why: It suggests that a very small percentage of HuffPo traffic reaches those pages with the stolen content, which is supposed to diminish the ire that Whet and others have over their practices. “Hey, it’s only 5 percent of our traffic! Why are you getting so upset?”

But what Peretti probably means is 95 percent of the traffic from the HuffPo/Chuffpo home pages clicks through the headline links. That’s a big difference. The real question is how much pf a percentage of their overall traffic do they get by using SEO strategies to get click throughs from search engines?

As for disgruntled publishers, Peretti seems genuinely perplexed and says The Huffington Post links should be good for them — and suggests that upset editors get in touch and build relationships with Huffington Post editors.

Yeah, silly us. We should have predicted they’d steal our content and called them pre-emptively to ask them to instead enter into a business relationship with us.

I have some Christmas shopping to do this afternoon. I think I’ll just steal a couple things, and if a retailer gets upset about it, I’ll suggest to them they get in touch with me and ask me to become a paying customer instead.